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  Did You Put Off Saving For Retirement?

  by Shakita in

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  i didn't think that i would ever retire in this system of things.

  i felt that long before retirement age the new system would be here and i would have no money worries.

  as the years rolled by and i didn't have any thing saved for retirement, i became more and more anxious.

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  Number 6

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  I didn't think my JW family could find another way to hurt me but...

  by Ghost of Esmeralda in

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  but i was so wrong!

  my daughter just got home.

  you all know i dressed her up, painted her nails, curled her hair, and sent her off to my favorite cousin's wedding.

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  Their evil knows no bounds does it?

  It is at times like this that I realise one can argue forever as to the 587/607 nonsense and any other doctrinal crap.

  It is their inhumane treatment of their own flesh and blood and incidents like this we read DAILY on this board that PROVE beyond a doubt they are not God's chosen organisation.

  As someone who suffered at their hands in a family wedding situation my heart goes out to you.

  'God's Channel on Earth? My Arse!!!'

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  One foot in and one foot out.

  by tech 597 in

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  i have to say that at one time i wouldn't even consider reading material at a discussion group like this one.

  but in the last two years, discussion groups like this one have been indispensable to my dealing with a very personal crisis of faith, and i want to thank the brave and loving persons who sponsor sites like this, and the brave and loving persons who participate in them.

  like many here, i was raised as one of jehovah's witnesses and never questioned the validity of the wbts view.

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  Number 6

  Watchtower, yoohoo WATCHTOWER,

  ANOTHER one bites the dust!! Yes as long as you prohibit free thinking humans from expressing their God given intelligence you will continue to lose good people like tech 597.

  God bless the internet!

  Give it 10-20 years and the Watchtower will be a core rump of braindead f***wits who will gloriously receive any old shite in the Watchtower magazine as 'new light' waiting for that end that's coming 'real soon'.

  Welcome tech 597

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  Was There Ever A Circuit Overseer That You Couldn't Stand?

  by minimus in

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  i know this has been discussed before but i think a fresh thread on this will be enjoyable.

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  Number 6

  searchfortruth:

  Was old AC of the anointed? Didn't think so myself. The thing I liked immensely about him was he truly did not give a flying f*** what the elders thought. Up to that point most of the CO's who did the rounds fell into line with whatever their agenda was. Big Al just waltzed in and rode roughshod all over them.

  Which the local bastards deserved.

  Sorry to hear he has died.

  Scotsman: I don't remember Jim Simpson very much. He had a very distinct speaking voice though. John Flack was a superb speaker, he could make the driest crappies Watchtower pap ( i.e most of it) sound intelligent and interesting. I also remember whilst dredging this stuff out of memory of a DO by the name of Ketter in the mid 70's. I believe he came from the Midlands and was a heavy promoter of the old 1975 date and became very disillusioned when nowt happened. There was heresay that he was a Kiddie fiddler but I can't confirm this. Be curious to see how many other names you mention. Those last two Shanks and Oldrey are after my time. I was history by that point.

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  Was There Ever A Circuit Overseer That You Couldn't Stand?

  by minimus in

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  i know this has been discussed before but i think a fresh thread on this will be enjoyable.

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  searchfortruth:

  He was f***ing impossible to miss. HUGE bloke. The time he came to my house for dinner as well as my wedding reception he ate everything in site.

  At the end I was tempted to put on my John Cleese with a french accent and offer him a 'wafer thin mint' to finish. (If you've seen Monty Python's meaning of life you'll know what I mean)

  Nice bloke though!

  BTW check your email

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  Was There Ever A Circuit Overseer That You Couldn't Stand?

  by minimus in

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  i know this has been discussed before but i think a fresh thread on this will be enjoyable.

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  Searchfortruth:

  You wouldn't be talking about Alistair Campbell at all? Used to bang on about being a missionary in South America and how if he could stand the privations of the jungle then we had no business moaning about banging a few suburban doors of a Sunday Afternoon.

  Really HUGE guy who when I came accross him was on Lanarkshire No. 1 circuit (Central Scotland about 1989/90. The thing is I actually had a lot of time for him. He came to my wedding with my wife's disfellowshipped sister was there after the local elders had made a huge thing about not coming as it would not be 'appropriate'. So old Campbell shows up and freeloads in helping himself to everything in sight. Thing is I didn't mind as it left egg all over the face of the bastard local elders.

  A few other UK CO's in the 70's and 80's if anyone knows them:

  Gordon Webb, Ray Midgeley, John Flack, Peter Morgan, Jim Simpson (DO I think) who were all in central Scotland at one point or other in the 70's and 80's.

  I always remember Webb giving a talk at the Convetion in Edinburgh mid 80's stating that it did not matter how Godly the parents were; if a child was not doing enough for 'hovah, then they could expect certain death anytime now. Jeez thanks for that Gordon!

  Just a few thoughts
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  Ex witnesses in UK

  by Michelleatkin in

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  i'm new to this site, found it whilst looking at panarama web site.

  are there many here from uk, even lancashire?

  if so, please let me know as it would be nice to speak to some ex-witnesses in uk.

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  Number 6

  Glasgow here, don't post much but prompted when I saw this thread.

  Although lived in Northampton from 98 - 02, then I missed home so much I moved back. Raised in a shitehole called East Kilbride ( a new town) nr Glasgow. Back in the city itself though.

  Come on there must be more than TWO Scottish ex-J Dubs here.

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  What Do You Think Is the Typical Attitude Of The Average JW Now?

  by minimus in

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  do you think that the average elder, ms, pioneer or publisher is different in attitude today?

  would the witness of 10 or 20 years ago, have the same way of thinking as today's jw's?

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  Number 6

  I look at my parents now who have been banging on doors since 1974 telling people the end is coming 'real soon' and just think how tired and sad they look. I was told that I would not live in this system until 1980 and go to high school. Then 1981 came I was at high school and was told that there would be no need to look for a job as the system would well and truly be dead and gone before the 90's got here.

  Now where are we? I'm 33, got kids of my own, and in less than 5 years from now my oldest daughter will be going to high school.

  And so my parents are now running scared because as their 60's approach they have made no provision for their own future. Just the yearly grind of meetings, field service, assemblies on and on and on and on.... I just wonder if in their own minds the spark will eventually ignite and they will see that they have wasted their lives. To try to salvage their old age before they spend the next 20 years telling folks.. with a burnt out look in their eye... the end will be here any day now.

  I just feel so sad for these people who 30 years ago were bright eyed 20 something couples with young kids full of zeal for the 'imminent' end of the world who are now middle aged hollow versions of their former selves slaving away to no purpose for the Watchtower Cult.

  It's just so very very sad and such a waste of people's lives.

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  what were you thinking when you got yourself baptised?

  by greven in

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  my first post diappeared so here's another try:.

  this is actually more than one question.

  but let me first explain my own experience: .

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  I was just numb. I thought to myself: 'Is that it?'

  For me it was easier just to go with the flow. I weighed up getting baptized and going through the motions against rebelling against 'the truth' and all that would arise out of that in my family home. My parents had long told me that should I cause trouble in their 'theocratically run' home that they would have had no hesitation in throwing me out. Being practical I decided to go along with it until the circumstances arose that would allow me to get out.

  So I took the attitude; if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. Of course I was a totally naive 17 year old who had no other life experience other than being raised in the JW's so I had no other frame of reference. My mother recently told me that I had the 'choice' whether or not to get baptized.

  Yeah right!

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  Demonstrate Trust In Jehovah By Trusting The Faithful Slave & The Elders

  by minimus in

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  the march 1,2003 wt.

  states: "trusting in jehovah means trusting those whom he trusts.

  for example, jehovah has arranged for 'the faithful and discreet slave' to care for the earthly kingdom interests.

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  "Trusting in Jehovah means trusting those whom he trusts"

  Indeed! How so! Why does trusting in the creator of the universe automatically equate to trusting in a man made earthy organisation? This is nothing other than a bare assertion by the writer of this article to get us off to a false start.

  "For example, Jehovah has arranged for 'the faithful and discreet slave' to care for the earthly Kingdom interests"

  Again a bare assertion. This is based on nothing other than a very loose interpretation of one passage of scripture which may or may not mean many things.

  "We do not try to go it alone"

  We? Who is this 'we'. Again by the use of the third person they tie every reader in with the writer so that they are left with no choice but to go along with the writer of the article.

  "for we trust Jehovah's arrangement"

  Arrangement? What arrangement? Now they claim by another assertion that this 'faithful slave' has an arrangement with the creator of the universe! Sounds very one sided this arrangement.

  :"Jehovah gives us sound counsel through his Word and through his organization, using the publications provided by the faithful and discreet slave"

  What self serving arrogance. 'and through his organisation' Sorry did I miss something? Where does this organisation come from? By just stringing this phrase on to the end of the sentence we are supposed without thinking to link the advice of a respected book thousands of years old with the inane twaddle printed by the Watchtower Society. This manufactured 'slave' now speaks on behalf of God by the means of a printshop in Brooklyn. I wonder what God has to say about this. Again at face value we are all to accept the arguement that god is using an or organisation to tell us all how to be holy through magazines and books.

  This is just a few things that stuck out a mile to me whilst reading that one paragraph critically and using my own head. Imagine the brain dead dubs at the Kingdom Hall studying this crap. Smiling placidly whilst the real meaning of what's being said goes right over their heads. The arguement that God (whether or not one accepts his existance) is using an earthly channel is a one sided arguement. There is no burden of proof on the claimant because the do nothing more than assert that they are God's channel.

  And yet people's very lives are affected daily by the outpourings of this 'slave'

  It is indeed a cult.

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